ntp @4.2.7p476_1 Apple's ntp still operates

[keybounce]

I have installed ntp @4.2.7p476_1, without problem, but the system ntpd still runs, not this new one.

keybounceMBP:Applications michael$ port installed ntp
The following ports are currently installed:
  ntp @4.2.7p476_1 (active)
keybounceMBP:Applications michael$ ntpdc --version
ntpdc 4.2.7p476@1.2483-o Tue Oct 28 18:43:09 UTC 2014 (1)
keybounceMBP:Applications michael$ ps ax | grep ntp
21433   ??  Ss     0:00.03 /usr/sbin/ntpd -c /private/etc/ntp-restrict.conf -n -g -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -f /var/db/ntp.drift
21766 s008  S+     0:00.00 grep ntp
keybounceMBP:Applications michael$ which ntpdc
/opt/local/sbin/ntpdc

[ryandesign (Ryan Carsten Schmidt)]

That sounds normal to me. MacPorts will not cause Apple-provided services to stop running, nor start its own services without your explicit instructions so to do.

[danielluke (Daniel J. Luke)]

That's correct, MacPorts doesn't automatically disable (or enable) anything.

[keybounce]

Alright, then how about putting in notes to tell how to switch from Apple's to MacPorts'?

bash-3.2# port notes ntp
ntp has no notes.
bash-3.2# port installed ntp
The following ports are currently installed:
  ntp @4.2.7p476_1 (active)
bash-3.2# 

[danielluke (Daniel J. Luke)]

We don't provide that for all ports, but I'm not opposed to it (ie. patches welcome). Something like "don't have 'Set date and time automatically' checked in Date & Time of system preferences?" I believe instructions to run 'port load ntp' are already printed because of the startupitem generation (just not as notes).

[keybounce]

That's helpful.

So, turning off set date and time automatically, and then trying to start it up

bash-3.2# port load ntp
bash-3.2# ntpdc -s
^C
bash-3.2# ps ax  | grep ntp
24189   ??  Ss     0:00.00 /opt/local/bin/daemondo --label=ntp --start-cmd /opt/local/sbin/ntpd -n -g -p /opt/local/var/run/ntpd.pid -f /opt/local/var/db/ntp.drift -c /opt/local/etc/ntp.conf ; --restart-netchange --pid=exec
24190   ??  S      0:00.01 /opt/local/sbin/ntpd -n -g -p /opt/local/var/run/ntpd.pid -f /opt/local/var/db/ntp.drift -c /opt/local/etc/ntp.conf
24191   ??  S      0:00.00 /opt/local/sbin/ntpd -n -g -p /opt/local/var/run/ntpd.pid -f /opt/local/var/db/ntp.drift -c /opt/local/etc/ntp.conf
24195 s008  S+     0:00.00 grep ntp
bash-3.2# ntpdc -s
localhost: timed out, nothing received
***Request timed out
bash-3.2# 

It shows that it started up, but I'm not getting anything.

[danielluke (Daniel J. Luke)]

trac isn't for support - please post to the mailing list (and/or the ntp mailing list) for help. (note that the conf file provided is fairly restrictive to help mitigate DDOS amplification participation - I usually use 'ntpq -p' to check the status of my ntpd).