Opened 7 years ago

Closed 7 years ago

Last modified 7 years ago

#52919 closed defect (wontfix)

Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender

Reported by: macuserguru Owned by: admin@…
Priority: Normal Milestone:
Component: server/hosting Version:
Keywords: Cc:
Port:

Description (last modified by larryv (Lawrence Velázquez))

If I send an email to the mailing list - I got this error:

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster@apple.com>.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.


<macports-users@lists.macports.org>: 550 5.7.1 <macports-users@lists.macports.org>: Recipient address rejected: Message rejected due to: SPF fail - not authorized. Please see http://www.openspf.net/Why?s=mfrom;id=fritzs@gmx.net;ip=17.151.62.28;r=macports-users@lists.macports.org

Reporting-MTA: dns; mail-in6.apple.com
Arrival-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 08:40:43 -0800

Final-Recipient: rfc822; macports-users@lists.macports.org
Status: 5.7.1
Action: failed
Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 08:40:43 -0800
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 <macports-users@lists.macports.org>: Recipient address rejected: Message rejected due to: SPF fail - not authorized. Please see http://www.openspf.net/Why?s=mfrom;id=fritzs@gmx.net;ip=17.151.62.28;r=macports-users@lists.macports.org

Change History (9)

comment:1 Changed 7 years ago by macuserguru

I think it's a problem to send from GMX

comment:2 Changed 7 years ago by danielluke (Daniel J. Luke)

gmx has an SPF policy that ends with -all indicating that they don't want you to be able to use a mailing list in the 'normal' way. I'm not sure if mailman checks for just this SPF case - but an appropriate dmarc_moderation_action might be able to help workaround it (all of the options are bad, however).

comment:3 Changed 7 years ago by danielluke (Daniel J. Luke)

See also this warning about spf policy with -all:

https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2015-August/079600.html

comment:4 Changed 7 years ago by larryv (Lawrence Velázquez)

Component: websiteserver/hosting
Description: modified (diff)
Owner: changed from macports-tickets@… to admin@…
Status: newassigned
Version: 2.3.5

comment:5 Changed 7 years ago by macuserguru

I have no control to the spf policy from GMX I use my GMX account for some mailing-lists and login to open source community projects, so as here.

comment:6 in reply to:  5 Changed 7 years ago by ryandesign (Ryan Carsten Schmidt)

Replying to macuserguru:

I have no control to the spf policy from GMX

Neither do we. Contact GMX. Ask them to relax their SPF policy.

comment:7 Changed 7 years ago by raimue (Rainer Müller)

Resolution: wontfix
Status: assignedclosed

Apparently you tried to sent a mail to the old address @lists.macosforge.org. The mail server at Apple forwards mails for the old addresses to the new addresses, but does not apply SRS and uses the same envelope sender. Therefore, our new mail server at lists.macports.org will reject the mail as it does not fulfill the SPF requirements of gmx.net.

We no longer have control over the old mailing list server at macOS forge and there is no more we can do. Please just use the new mailing list address @lists.macports.org and everything will work fine.

comment:8 Changed 7 years ago by macuserguru

Here I found a description for this problem too, but this is in german language: https://www.heinlein-support.de/blog/news/gmx-de-und-web-de-haben-mail-rejects-durch-spf/

Over which emailadress I could test them, without to send them to all subscriber? xxx@… xxx@…

PS: I had send an information to GMX about this problem too.

PPS: More about SPF syntax I read here now http://www.openspf.org/SPF_Record_Syntax

comment:9 Changed 7 years ago by macuserguru

Now I used or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to

macports-users-request@…

and it worked - this problem are resolved now!

Great thanks! :-)

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