Opened 6 years ago

Closed 4 years ago

Last modified 4 years ago

#45478 closed update (wontfix)

Update request: New version of iStumbler available (122 vs 99)

Reported by: whmagill Owned by: stuartwesterman (Stuart Westerman)
Priority: Normal Milestone:
Component: ports Version:
Keywords: Cc: kurthindenburg (Kurt Hindenburg)
Port: istumbler

Description

Mac Ports installs iStumbler version 99. When "check for updates" runs, a pop-up with a special yellow box indicates that a new update (122) is available, but that version 99 users need to download it explicitly.

Both work. Version 122 has several enhancements.

Change History (13)

comment:1 Changed 6 years ago by mf2k (Frank Schima)

Owner: changed from macports-tickets@… to stuartwesterman@…
Port: istumbler added
Type: defectupdate
Version: 2.3.2

In the future, please fill in the Port field and Cc the port maintainers (port info --maintainers istumbler).

comment:2 Changed 6 years ago by stuartwesterman (Stuart Westerman)

It appears that iStumbler went from BSD license, to closed source and costs $20. It is also being distributed with .dmg. I'm not sure what to do here.

Last edited 6 years ago by stuartwesterman (Stuart Westerman) (previous) (diff)

comment:3 Changed 6 years ago by kurthindenburg (Kurt Hindenburg)

Cc: khindenburg@… added

Cc Me!

comment:4 Changed 6 years ago by kurthindenburg (Kurt Hindenburg)

It looks like 99 is the last release with source. Typically, you can try to patch the 99 to remove the 'Check for updates' to avoid confusing users.

comment:5 Changed 6 years ago by stuartwesterman (Stuart Westerman)

I'm still not sure what to do here. It looks like the download site points to a zipped .app. I'm not sure how to patch release 99 to remove the 'Check for updates'.

comment:6 Changed 5 years ago by jerryyhom

Removing the check for updates is easy, but then users might be confused why it is missing or not working. New users should be informed of newer versions, costs, etc., which seems appropriate with the check for updates. Perhaps explanation could be provided as 'notes' in the portfile?

comment:7 in reply to:  6 ; Changed 5 years ago by stuartwesterman (Stuart Westerman)

Replying to jerryyhom@…:

Removing the check for updates is easy, but then users might be confused why it is missing or not working. New users should be informed of newer versions, costs, etc., which seems appropriate with the check for updates. Perhaps explanation could be provided as 'notes' in the portfile?

The problem here is that iStumbler is not open source software anymore. Again, I don't know what to do. As you mentioned, removing the check for updates is not much of a fix.

comment:8 Changed 5 years ago by jerryyhom

It is an unusual situation, but clearly any release after 99 is closed source and cannot be supported via MacPorts. This is simply a best effort - release 99 can continue with that understanding. My suggestion is providing explanation via 'notes' if you are so inclined; otherwise, there is really not much else to do.

comment:9 in reply to:  7 ; Changed 5 years ago by larryv (Lawrence Velázquez)

Replying to stuartwesterman@…:

The problem here is that iStumbler is not open source software anymore. Again, I don't know what to do. As you mentioned, removing the check for updates is not much of a fix.

As I see it, we should treat the project as if it were abandoned and remove it entirely. I don’t see a point in providing an outdated version forever. This is an uncommon situation, though, so you might want to ask macports-dev for additional opinions.

comment:10 in reply to:  9 Changed 5 years ago by stuartwesterman (Stuart Westerman)

Replying to larryv@…:

Replying to stuartwesterman@…:

The problem here is that iStumbler is not open source software anymore. Again, I don't know what to do. As you mentioned, removing the check for updates is not much of a fix.

As I see it, we should treat the project as if it were abandoned and remove it entirely. I don’t see a point in providing an outdated version forever. This is an uncommon situation, though, so you might want to ask macports-dev for additional opinions.

I agree with this. I'll ask to have the port removed entirely.

comment:11 Changed 4 years ago by mf2k (Frank Schima)

Resolution: wontfix
Status: newclosed

comment:12 Changed 4 years ago by mf2k (Frank Schima)

I opened a ticket for removing the port in #52726.

comment:13 Changed 4 years ago by kurthindenburg (Kurt Hindenburg)

In 3425c4c/macports-ports:

istumbler: remove port - no longer open source

closes #52726
ref #45478

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