Why now Macports wants to install TeXLive?

[angelog0 (Angelo Graziosi)]

I have already TeXLive (2024) installed and upgraded from the site but in today selfport upgrade Macports install a full TexLive distribution.

I do not want more then 4GB duplicated and never I chose to install a TeXLive MacPorts package.

How I uninstall and clean those packages? and how I stop they are installed at the next selfupdate?

[reneeotten (Renee Otten)]

See: ​https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/pull/22905

I agree that this is undesirable.

[essandess (Steve Smith)]

Please see ​https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/pull/23085

pandoc hardcodes an xelatex dependency, and every major project that uses pandoc like Jupyter assumes that LaTeX is installed. One example: Jupyter> Save As pdf breaks without a LaTeX installation. pandoc provides a specific file that lays out all its LaTeX dependencies.

See:

• ​https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/blob/main/tools/latex-package-dependencies.lua
• ​https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/blob/2514ad25311a68d8244a77e4bfc4fd6e26b6848e/src/Text/Pandoc/PDF.hs#L74-L83
• ​https://github.com/jgm/pandoc/blob/main/doc/faqs.md

The PR already uses a minimized dependency for basic compatibility with pandoc LaTeX requirements (several 10's of MB, not heavy full TeXLive GB), and adds a +texlive variant to use a minimized MacPorts TeX installation.

[essandess (Steve Smith)]

Replying to angelog0:

I have already TeXLive (2024) installed and upgraded from the site but in today selfport upgrade Macports install a full TexLive distribution.

I do not want more then 4GB duplicated and never I chose to install a TeXLive MacPorts package.

Are you sure about this? The pandoc Portfile only specifies a very minimal dependency that takes several 10s of MB, not GB:

du -sm /opt/local/var/macports/software/texlive-{xetex,basic,bin,common,latex-recommended,plain-generic}
12	/opt/local/var/macports/software/texlive-xetex
23	/opt/local/var/macports/software/texlive-basic
17	/opt/local/var/macports/software/texlive-bin
1	/opt/local/var/macports/software/texlive-common
64	/opt/local/var/macports/software/texlive-latex-recommended
32	/opt/local/var/macports/software/texlive-plain-generic

​https://github.com/macports/macports-ports/blob/bd5fc6be3a5df852de96d65f0b794a6637a4c408/textproc/pandoc/Portfile#L39-L41

[angelog0 (Angelo Graziosi)]

Steve, it tries to install texlive-fonts and other: I stopped with CTRL-C.

Even if it were small I do not want mixing my TeXLive 2024 installation from TeXLive site with that from MacPorts. Currently my PATH since 2011 is something like this

/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:/LocalApps/texlive/bin/x86_64-darwinlegacy:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin

and I should reverse the order (would it be sane?)

And more...

It insists to install texlive-common and friends also if I use

... and not texlive-common

Beside this, I do not have pandoc installed:

$ sudo port installed | grep -i pan
Password:
  pango @1.50.14_0+quartz+x11 (active)
  py310-pandocfilters @1.5.1_0 (active)

so, what wants to install TeXLive from MacPorts? It seems pandocfilters...

[essandess (Steve Smith)]

Replying to angelog0:

I do not have pandoc installed

Then this issue is not related to the pandoc/TeXLive discussion.

[angelog0 (Angelo Graziosi)]

As I wrote, I had installed py310-pandocfilters package and after uninstalling it, port stopped to insist installing texlive-common and friends...

[thetrial (alabay)]

Interesting, I just commented under #48971 a similar situation. Related to pandoc. But: MacPorts installed a complete texlive, too, wenn compiling something else … I just can't remember, what it was. A small required building block in some context. But yes, I have a complete unix-script TL 2024 installation and would have awaited that there is a possibility to install pandoc standalone. In texlive is neede just to build something – like it happened before – the whole MP texlive is a leaf. I could get rid of than. Bu now, with pandoc, it seems, it is not a leaf anymore.

Ha, I just remembered what triggered texlive before: ghostscript and/or poppler!

[essandess (Steve Smith)]

In d3bdfd2fd0c620907cae6223bee911b9f137c067/macports-ports (master):

pandoc: Add texlive variant for basic LaTeX dependencies

• Fixes: #69529